I am asking this Question -

Do we want to know or not? is this a site for lies or truth? I have DCA and I also sent money in for the clinical trials as well as having my wife dealing with stage four lung cancer currently stable with antioxident regimens. Today we go in with DCA to see if her oncologist will support her using it.

Some news here would sure be great but NO ONE who has been CT scanned after using DCA for a couple months is talking or coming back except for squareb who gave us bad news. What is going on here? are we participating in a venting session where these folks are linked with those folks selling us DCA? what exactly is going on - our lives and our loved ones lives are on the line and not ONE CT SCAN in 4 months!!!! or the TRUTH is being removed from the site and people who had scans did post bad results so it was also removed like my questions are.

I am not happy about this admin - gee sorry I lost everything sorry - what? didn't this happen last month on another persons testimony who DIED!! while using DCA. Something is definitely missing here and I am starting to think its THE TRUTH.

I believe in DCA but I am starting to think these admins are manipulating the information to suit them which is pretty typical for us trying to survive to run into. Sorry but these admins need to either post it ALL or explain why they are not allowing CT scan results to be listed on this site. Folks just think about it - Jan, Feb, March, April and now May - 4 months and nothing - come on folks lets get real here - do you really think its a coincidence?.

Oracle

I have DCA and I also sent money in for the clinical trials as well as having my wife dealing with stage four lung cancer currently stable with antioxident regimens. Today we go in with DCA to see if her oncologist will support her using it.

Some definitely clear news here would sure be great but it seems that NO ONE who has been CT scanned after using DCA for a couple months is talking or coming back except for squareb who gave us bad news.

I am not happy about this but I believe in DCA but I think we need to see posts that are bad as well as good - we need it ALL. CT scan results should be listed by folks who start on this site.

Folks just think about it - Jan, Feb, March, April and now May - 4 months and very little or just a little bit - but no WOW! other than what squareb posted and that was definitely a wow. Come on folks lets post it good or bad.

Oracle

If you read the testimonials, there is at least one scan showing DCA's efficacy. Remember, DCA has only been in use for a month or two. Still VERY early to expect many scan results. Add to that, the fact that for the most part, the medical system has ABANDONED anyone who wants to use it. That would mean less access to scans by those who are using DCA - I count myself amoung those people.

To whom exactly are you making this accusation!? Just so you know - not that I have to defend myself, but I'm bristling at your statements right now - I live in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. The DCA 'people' are located in Sonora, California. I have never met them, nor do I 'work' for them. I suggest you owe them and other members on this forum an apology!

>I am not happy about this admin - gee sorry I lost
>everything sorry - what? didn't this happen last month on
>another persons testimony who DIED!! while using DCA.
>Something is definitely missing here and I am starting to
>think its THE TRUTH.

The section that was supposedly 'lost' on the forum, namely the Clinical Trials, never had any information in it. As for your other accusation about a death, yes, people have died. For some people, their cancer is just too advanced, they would have died without DCA too. But many people are getting better who would likely be dead - read the thread by Joy in Testimonials https://thedcasite.com/cgi/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=38&forum=DCForumID2&viewmode=threaded

All of us with cancer, or supporting family,friends with cancer are walking on egg shells and emotionally distraught. So I have plenty of patience and empathy with your tirade and impatience.

We all want to see hard results from hard techology like imaging, palpable tumors and biomarkers diminishing/disappearing, PSA numbers stagnating and decreasing, etc.

I agree with Sandra that we don't have 4 months you claim for imaging to have been performed, but only 1 or 2 months, maybe even less, of DCA experience. Stopping progression of the disease is first phase, ie, little or no new tumor growth. Then for the exisiting tumor cells to expire and not to be replaced, could take months, not weeks, imo.

If DCA is working for some people, I expect hard results to arrive in the next couple months. I have no pretensions that DCA will work for everybody, since every person's physiological health, immune capacity, inherited genetics, cancer type, disease stage, diet, supplements, genetic expressions render responses to any treatment different from person to person.

Len

Jim and I are the only ones who can remove posts from this site, so if you have questions feel free to email/private message us.

I never remove posts unless they are double postings or spam or outright derogatory/abusive. I sometimes MOVE them to another thread where they are more appropriate. If you ask a question, it may be moved to the Q&A section. I alerted members to this in the section DCA Forum FAQs.

We have had some problems and lost a few messages (and the entire Clinical Trials section) last week due to an attack by spammers. I apologize for any inconvenience.

Heather
TheDCASite Forum Moderator

My dad has stage 4 non-small cell lung cancer. He will have CT sometime next week. He took DCA for 25 days, stopped on May 10 for a reason. The CT next week will tell something, but will not be a black or while answer. I will let every body know when I got the result.

I read almost all the posts every early when this forum just started. I did not see any valuable results being removed by the owner of this forum.

I got to go now. I will be back tomorrow if you have any questions for me.

MZ

It seems that for many urologists, the decision is binary: you don't have prostate cancer, or you do. If you do, more of the same binary brutality: cut it out or ablate it. Almost no urologists want to get involved, time-intensive, in "managing" the disease, or even involved with the patient.

The key question for people trying to manage cancer is "How am I doing?" The question is easy, the answer isn't.

Here's an abstract that mentions biomarkers for apoptosis:

"Research Highlights
Nature Clinical Practice Urology (2007) 4, 236
doi:10.1038/ncpuro0770

Apoptosis biomarkers could aid prediction of outcome after surgery for bladder cancer

This article has no abstract so we have provided the first paragraph of the full text.

Karam et al. investigated whether expression of four apoptosis-related biomarkers (Bcl-2, p53, caspase 3 and survivin), alone or in combination, could aid prediction of outcome after radical cystectomy for bladder cancer. Conventional prognostic features (tumor stage, grade, and lymph-node metastasis) are not accurate enough to predict outcomes after radical cystectomy, because patients with similar disease features experience varied outcomes."

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These aren't biomarkers for bladder cancer, AFAIK, but cancer. And they could be useful after surgery, or after a period of managed treatment.

I think we're pretty much condemned to fly blind, with no cheap or easy way to know in detail what is going on.

https://thedcasite.com/dcaforum/DCForumID4/55.html

Also, here's where someone posted a message which pertained to positive scan results.

https://thedcasite.com/dcaforum/DCForumID2/83.html

Hint to everyone: If you're looking for a snatch of information on the "thedcasite" site but have forgotten exactly where it's located, Google is sometimes the best way to find it. For example, if you type in "squareb" and "sarcoma" Google will respond with relevant hits. There's one caveat to this method, i.e., it can take a few days for Google to "spider" the post and get it onto the Google servers.

(FWIW, It's my gut feeling, and nothing more, that the contents of this site are not being manipulated by the administrators.)

Do we want to know or not? Well I took it myself to show my wife it was safe but she still waited to hear it from the doctors first and she did last week. Stage IV Lung Cancer Lymphoma needs a little DCA in my book. A very experienced oncologist told her if a baby can take it you sure can! we laughed a bit and moved on. I found out our area here in has more cancer than any other in the US due to a lack of Vitamin D. The body will produce about 8,000 units of it in a day of sun so folk in areas like ours need to take at least that a day if they have cancer. I will post a testimonials every week. I already sent an email to the admins even before they saw my post and want to appologizee to the admins again - been a bad few months.

This week my wife will start DCA under a naturopath and a oncologists supervision. They were both very positive and upbeat about supporting us and they have "many others" they provide support to as well - wow is that cool or what!.

One of the things that really blew me away was that they actually went out and found a supplier that tried to sell it to them for thousands of dollars - like about 11,000.00 for a months supply and they are doctors! They of course declined but kept it as an option just in case.

So there are some big fakers out there once again I want to apologize.

Oracle