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surfer_2001
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Mar-18-07, 11:14 PM (PST)
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"Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
 
   2yrs after surgery for Colon Cancer, metalized to lungs..

1st chemo (3mths) treatment was ok 8mths later had 8 more chemo treatments very ill, tumours growing,losing weight fast, tired, stopped chemo to have a break from the worsening side effects...

Note: 3 weeks prior to stopping 2nd chemo started taking 1,000IU VitD and also taking Pomella Pomegranate juice (30mil = 16 pomegranates. (no other Meds at all)

Now 6 weeks later cat scan shows tumours have shrunk a lot!! for 1st time in 2 yrs and have put on weight!!! more energy and very happy.

I guess "if" I had been taking DCA we would have thought this was doing the trick! My Dr is amazed and wants to keep things identical and do a new scan in a few months.

I hear from a direct source in Edmonton that the DCA trials will be on patients who have not had chemo and only in the early stages this way they can accurately asses the effectiveness of DCA.


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Diana
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Mar-18-07, 11:47 PM (PST)
 
1. "RE: DCA Trials"
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To add to your comments about the studies, I have thought that the humanized rats/mice were implanted with cancer, and did not have the same full system activity that was there for years as an advanced lung cancer patient (ex). DCA has never been used on a cancer patient in the end stage, and then we hope that DCA can actually deal with an advanced cancer. Not being scientific, and assuming that there is major cancer cell involvement, wouldn't the death of the cancer cells be an overload to the entire system?

The dog study was specifically for toxicity, there was no cancer involvement...simple a study to see what was a toxic level. In Dr. M.'s study, it there any mention the co-existing effects on the test subjects.

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Heidi
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Mar-18-07, 11:50 PM (PST)
 
2. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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   I am extremely happy for you!!! Thats really really great!


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Dave
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Mar-19-07, 01:04 AM (PST)
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3. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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   I'd be interested in learning more about your experience. I just recently had surgery for colon cancer and I have metastisis to the liver. I am currently on chemo and tolerating it well but haven't had a ct scan yet to determine any effectivenes. You can send me a personal message.


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cybernaut
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May-30-07, 09:21 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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Can't guarantee it will work for you but Cetuximab, Raltitrexed and MMC cleaned my liver of colorectal mets like a charm. I was aso taking 80mg Atorvastatin. The key is the MMC, Irinotecan subbed doesn't do the liver so well. If you want more detail let me know.

Kind regards - Ian


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surfer_2001
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Apr-14-07, 00:39 AM (PST)
 
4. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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   New scan shows re growth and options are narrowing as doctor is not very optimistic on restarting chemo.

DCA may be an option...

Any one here thought about using a Nebulizer for DCA, maybe it would allow higher dose to the lungs.


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cybernaut
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May-30-07, 09:26 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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Yes. I am trying to get an official trial going with 5FU and nebulization and had thought of this. Decided to stick with 5FU plan for a while as some provenance for it. Not sure lung mets won't be better oxygenated than DCA can help. They certainly respond very differently to my liver and abdominal mets.

I put a couple of papers at

www.cybersolver.com/medical/tatsumura.pdf
&
www.cybersolver.com/medical/indiananecdote.pdf

enjoy.

Kind regards - Ian


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John A
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May-31-07, 00:26 AM (PST)
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7. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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   >New scan shows re growth and options are narrowing as doctor
>is not very optimistic on restarting chemo.
>
>DCA may be an option...
>
>Any one here thought about using a Nebulizer for DCA, maybe
>it would allow higher dose to the lungs.


Dear Surfer 2001,

Yes Nebulisation might be a good technique to think of for Lung Cancer Tumours.

I would however be cautious in case DCA sets up some lung allergy type reaction and proceed slowly.

On the other hand I do not think that targeting the lungs with a higher DCA dose is necessarily the best way to go.

Oral dosing would be still my preferred safest option.

The prime culprit is the increasing resistance to Chemotherapy that is why I would seriously consider the Proton Pump Inhibitor option such as Omeprazole which has been posted yesterday.

Best Regards

John A.
Research Chemist

John A


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johnack
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Mar-06-08, 00:18 AM (PST)
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8. "RE: Wanted DCA but Tumours shrank anyway..."
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   >>New scan shows re growth and options are narrowing as doctor
>>is not very optimistic on restarting chemo.
>>
>>DCA may be an option...
>>
>>Any one here thought about using a Nebulizer for DCA, maybe
>>it would allow higher dose to the lungs.
>
>
>Dear Surfer 2001,
>
>Yes Nebulisation might be a good technique to think of for
>Lung Cancer Tumours.
>
>I would however be cautious in case DCA sets up some lung
>allergy type reaction and proceed slowly.
>
>On the other hand I do not think that targeting the lungs
>with a higher DCA dose is necessarily the best way to go.
>
>Oral dosing would be still my preferred safest option.
>
>The prime culprit is the increasing resistance to
>Chemotherapy that is why I would seriously consider the
>Proton Pump Inhibitor option such as Omeprazole which has
>been posted yesterday.
>
>
>
>Best Regards
>
>John A.
>Research Chemist

Hi,
Am I right in thinking Omeprazole is similar/same as Lanzoprizole, which I was given by my doctor to stop reflux after I was diagnosed with osophegus cancer.

After completing the DCA site suvey, Iwas told it inhibits DCA. I have stopped taking it 3 days ago, So Iam hoping for improvement now.

Johnack UK


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