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alida2_2000
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May-24-07, 04:16 PM (PST)
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"Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
 
   As I posted before my mom with Ovarian Cancer on forth stage began to take DCA at a doze of 10 mg/kg per day. On the 5-th day of the first week (taking DCA) she experienced the known problems of numbing and dizziness. Also heartbeats went high, over 120, for a while. She is afraid now to use it again. Today and tomorrow maybe also the day after tomorrow she will be off the DCA.
I want to let you know that during last 2 weeks she is taking also lasix for getting out fluids that are created from the cancer.

Please help me with any suggestion or instructions to avoid this situation again.

Thanks,
Archie

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billn
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May-24-07, 05:42 PM (PST)
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1. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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This sounds a low dose for there to be side effects from the DCA.

However, the effect of DCA is known to vary from young children up to older people.

Is she taking any supplements?

What you are doing is right,. leave it a few days to seeif the symptoms occur without the DCA to eliminate it.

Then re-introdue at say 5mg/kg/day and slowly build up.

Billn


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alida2_2000
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May-24-07, 10:22 PM (PST)
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2. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   Actually for me now, after reading on internet, is very important what kind of food she needs to take. So far she is not checking the levels of pH in Saliva and Urin. Maybe her diet is wrong, is more acid then alkaline. I have to find out ASAP. (By the way I'm in VA-USA, my mom is in Athens-Greece)
Thanks for reply.

Best regards,
Archie

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MikeD55737
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May-25-07, 07:38 AM (PST)
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3. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   I have read that DCA has a half-life of 24+ hours, and have seen suggestions of alternating dosage schedules - i.e: taking every other day. Also, splitting the daily dosage up into taking half the dose twice a day (half in the morning, the other half in the evening), or even disolving it in drinking water and sipping it throughout the day. I hope this may help.

Best,
Mike D.


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Sandramoderator
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May-25-07, 02:17 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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Archie,
Your mom may have Tumor Lysis Syndrome.

Here is some information about that:
http://www.thedcasite.com/dcaforum/DCForumID2/63.html
http://www.thedcasite.com/dca_safety.html

Try to make sure she is drinking enough water, because it will help flush toxins from her body. But be sure her kidneys are working properly - that she is eliminating as much as she is drinking.

She should be taking Benfotiamine 400mg http://www.benfotiamine.net/ http://www.aor.ca/int/products/benfotiamine.php
and lipoic acid 800mg http://www.r-lipoic.com/
to protect against numbness

and Silymarin (milk thistle) - 1000mg http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00702.html to protect her liver

Probably also good to add about 8 grams of buffered Vitamin C, 5000mg of fish oil (distilled) or Omega 3 oil. I really like this product Network Synergy because it has several supplements together in it. http://www.aor.ca/int/products/network_synergy.php

Take care, wish you and your mom the best!
Sandra


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alida2_2000
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May-25-07, 05:54 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   Something I don't know for sure, what is the pH level in her body. Does pH level helps to find out why she is getting dizziness, high heart bit up to 130-116 in 2 days in a raw continously?
Where I can find pH kit? I checked in pharmacies, they don't have it.
Please help,

Archie

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Sandramoderator
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May-26-07, 01:04 AM (PST)
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9. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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If you can't find pH paper at a healthfood store, you can order it on-line here:
http://www.microessentiallab.com/


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alida2_2000
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May-25-07, 06:54 PM (PST)
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6. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   Any idea why her pulse went so high, to 130 for 2 days in a raw?

Archie


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alida2_2000
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May-25-07, 07:06 PM (PST)
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7. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   An update!
Now she is filling beter, her pulse is normalized.

Archie


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May-26-07, 01:01 AM (PST)
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8. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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Archie,
If you google 'lasix side effects' you will find this site:
http://www.drugs.com/lasix.html with this information:

• Stop using Lasix and call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:
· dry mouth, thirst, nausea, vomiting;
· feeling weak, drowsy, restless, or light-headed;
· fast or uneven heartbeat;
· muscle pain or weakness;
· urinating less than usual or not at all;
· easy bruising or bleeding, unusual weakness;
· a red, blistering, peeling skin rash;
· hearing loss; or
· nausea, stomach pain, low fever, loss of appetite, dark urine, clay-colored stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes).

• Continue taking Lasix and talk with your doctor if you have any of these less serious side effects:
· diarrhea, constipation, or stomach pain;
· headache;
· numbness, burning, pain, or tingly feeling;
· dizziness; or
· blurred vision.


I think your mother is having side effects from lasix - maybe she shouldn't be on it and DCA at the same time.


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alida2_2000
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May-29-07, 09:07 PM (PST)
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11. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   I sent her PH kit. Today she stopped taking lasix and began taking DCA 10mg/kg a day. We'll see. Hope her situation gets better. I'll keep you guys up to date.

Archie

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Nekko
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May-26-07, 08:43 PM (PST)
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10. "RE: Problems after 5-th day of using DCA"
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   Hi. You need to talk with your oncologist.

Happy Nekko


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