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davidportia
Member since Jul-23-08
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Aug-14-08, 04:36 AM (PST) |
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"squamous lung cancer"
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Hi, Dear All, I have been in the forum for some day already seeking info about lung cancer. The final word has come yesterday that my dad has squamous lung cancer, which based on my knowledge is a kind of NSCLC (non small cell lung cancer). He was sent to hospital when he coughed up traces of blood about a month ago. He has a very long smoking history (more than 50 years). The previous CT scan about 3 weeks ago reported that "...the left lung door enlarged, soft tissue lump, size about 5.4 X7.0 cm. The lump edge is leaf like". The doctors decided to perform chemo on him for 5 consecutive days and then release him from the hospital. Thought the chemo will be too much for him as he is pretty weak right now. Just got DCA for him and today he is starting to take it with a dosage 12mg/kg/day. we will increase the dosage by 2mg after each 3 days until 20mg. Of course vit B1, B12, Coffee & Tea, fish oil, Mature Multi Vitmins and minerals (by Kirkland from Costco, which contains Vitamin C 60mg, is this ok?) will be used. We will schedule a scan after 3 weeks to see the result. Is it too short? I do not expect big good news that the tumor's size is decreased but it is under check. Any comment and suggestions on how best to proceed from here? I wish all good luck with the magic DCA.
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squamous lung cancer [View All],
davidportia, 04:36 AM, Aug-14-08, (0)
- RE: squamous lung cancer,
Sandra
, Aug-14-08, 05:07 AM, (1)
- RE: squamous lung cancer,
davidportia, Aug-23-08, 10:08 PM, (7)
- RE: squamous lung cancer,
davidportia, Sep-20-08, 11:14 PM, (19)
- RE: squamous lung cancer U can beat this - He will win!,
oracle, Sep-28-08, 04:19 AM, (22)
- RE: squamous lung cancer,
davidportia, Oct-29-08, 05:15 PM, (23)
- RE: squamous lung cancer,
davidportia, Nov-17-08, 10:33 PM, (25)
- RE: update on my dad's squamous lung cancer,
davidportia, Feb-03-09, 07:27 AM, (31)
- RE: squamous lung cancer,
oracle, Feb-03-09, 12:18 PM, (34)
- We lost our battle,
davidportia, May-09-09, 00:16 AM, (35)
- RE: We lost our battle,
rtshinn, May-09-09, 08:02 PM, (36)
- RE: We lost our battle,
Sandra
, May-09-09, 08:52 PM, (37)
- RE: We lost our battle,
Mack, May-20-09, 06:12 AM, (39)
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oracle
Member since Mar-17-07
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Aug-18-08, 04:05 AM (PST) |
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4. "RE: squamous lung cancer - YO Amigo ;-)"
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Hello and please note these are only my opinions and I am not a doctor. Listen well to Sandra - that girl has got it all together and will NOT lead you astray. You can see my wifes events under the oracle feeds but here is what we did to get us to where we are right now. I think others try to take advantage of all of us for selfish reasons but its ok as long as the humans here that I love get something from our exchanges - its cool with me. PROTOCOL - NO MULTI-VITAMINS of mass vitamins period! they either have copper or they have Vitamin C all bad for DCA ;-! The link Jim is posting has four of the protocols Lien is on all listed under alternative. The low dose chemo, budwig, ph and low glucose diet. Here is the alkaline chart: YOU NEED THIS! http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/foodchart.htm I believe I have the answer in conjunction with chemo but its low dose and not just any chemo. I will get the list from our Dr. Chen or you docs could talk with him? Folks Lien was swimming with our son the past three days. She is still putting on weight and feeling great. Here is exactly what we are doing. CHEMO: Every other week she gets low dose chemo - one week is avastin and bone treatment and the other is chemo drugs In a blender: Critical 5- 6 tablespoons of cold pressed flaxseed oil with Lignan. Bareleans is our flax of choice. an ounce or two or double filtered water. 12 blueberries full dropper of lemon drop(lemon oil with stevia) 12 - 20,000 IU of liquid vitamin D Blend it up and give it to her early in the morning a few hours before she gets up. -------------------------------------------------------------- daily drink: PURE BLACK TEA from the chinese tea house pressed and wrapped in a light paper. Strong tea mixed with a finger full of stevia leaf (whole leaf) Some pure honey (enough to give it a nice flavor to stand the taste of strong tea. A sprinkle of Pure cinnamon (no sugar in it) organic whole milk ( shake it well with super hot water in a chinese style glass with screen in it) This makes two full cups of tea that she drinks first thing in the morning but it tastes awesome and cinnamon rocks. --------------- next drink --- 1.8 teaspoon DCA $$$ one half bottle of 5 hour power one quarter teaspoon or mini scoop of magnesium phiz 20,000 IUs of Liquid Vitamin D. - very important $$$ Two droppers of liquid vitamin B12 one scoop of L_glutamine (3400mg) one ounce of double filtered water. $$$ stir it up and chill for consumption - tastes pretty dam good! ----- all day long - all day long ----- She touches no chemicals including no dishes or dish soaps. She only uses Glycerin soaps for bathing and from the dish washer every dish, knife, spoon and fork is rinsed under the pure water filter - everything! that goes into her mouth gets filtered first. no laundry work, all chemicals are placed outside the door in a heavy duty plastic containers. no air fresheners or incense of any kind! No bug sprays and no yard chemicals near the windows or front door. ----------------------------------------------------------- DRINKS: Lemon water all day long made from double filterd water only. oraganic lemon concentrate and organic lemons sweetened with stevia and a little honey but not strong and not sweet. POMs black pom tea - good stuff and we are getting great results from it in two ways - one its black tea and an antioxidant and two it tastes good giving Lien something enjoyable outside of Lemon water. Green teas and Red Ginseng tea with jojoba and honey - great for energy and tastes great. Go to the tea house Chris and enjoy a black tea and honey cinnamon latte! tell Rosie we love her very much and say thanks for your family to your chosen deities you are in a time of grace having them in your life so enjoy their presence and make sure they feel our love from the all Check out joeylovett.com and let me know what you think of my new song. Drink at least TWO full glasses of lemon a day. -------- Foods that got us back on track fast RIGHT when we thought Lien was in trouble again. NOTE: I put TUMRIC ON EVERYTHING SHE EATS - EVERYTHING! she cant taste it so it works out great!
see Link: http://www.healthy.net/scr/Column.asp?Id=658 halibut soup - lots of halibut - spicy, hot pot with tofu - cat fish, no salmon. Lots of veggies but not to much to ruin the soup made with a Fish based Fish sauce -go to china town and buy there since its not in normal stores.
Lemon squeezed all over the fish along with tons of garlic, some lemon grass and lots of cilantro. Vegatarian PHOA - lots of vegies very liquid with tofu - serious tonic for the body man. Organic birds of any kind and even a rabbit now and then! Covered in lemons always lemons, lots of garlic with ginger and cilantro. I grill most of her food outside but clean it very well and the grill to I do not use the grill metal on the food - I place her meat inside of a tin plate and cover it up so all the yummy juices build with the garlic and turmeric, soy sauce etc.
Salads: tomatoes, TUMRIC, fish salt(dried fish thats crushed into salt - works awesome and no fish smell of taste!) cucumbers, no onions or very little due to their acidic nature on the body not being totally clear to me. NOTE: NOT ALL VINEGAR IS GOOD ALKALINE - MUST BE APPLE CIDER VINEGAR! I use organic apple vinegar mixed with cold pressed flax and lignan together as a base. - you cannot tell the difference and its good for her no - I do not use olive oils since Olives are acidic so how the hell can Olive oil virgin or not be good for you! just not worth the risk even if its ok I dont want to take that risk. I cut out anything she might have to fight inside her metabolism - give her a smooth ride baby coQ10 400mg, Vitamin B1 450mg - 900mg daily magnesium 450mg 2 times every other day and one once a day. vit c (only what is in lemons etc), Melatonin 4mg (before bed only) mushroom extracts - all known fighters like Shiitake, Cordyceps,Agaricus Blazei, maitake, reishi lots of drops from the dropper in the daily drink she is given. two scoops (6800mg) of L_Glutamine is in all my wifes rice(about two cups dried rice with filtered water) and I also put in a shot of cold pressed flax oil into the rice cooker. ------------------------------------ physical During chemo she gets acupuncture once a week. lots of fresh air at night with air filters and the window open to the trees outside. a few minutes a few times a day do Deep breathing and stretching - very critical! A minmum 30 minute non stop massage as she sits between my legs where I do her spine with my thumbs all the way up to her medulla and then her entire scalp. I stretch out her neck and shoulders and massage her arms raising them over her head. I then pound her using karate chops going behind her lungs and all around the area to stimulate blood flow for the dca and oxygen to get in there and help out with things. NOTE: This is why I believe her SUV dropped from 9 to 2 in the past few months. Her lungs are so close to the back I have no idea why they do not place the port for the lungs there or even administer other treatments directly to the lungs from that area being its so dam close to the injured area. Anyway I rub her down and then she takes her melatonin and goes to bed sleeps like a baby man. I use PH test strips from the pet store to check bottled water ph and most failed badly. ALKA-LITE - this is powerful and over time fixes the bodies water ph. Why is is so hard for people to get this? BODY WATER: A pool gets nasty in a few days of just sitting but we are putting all kinds of stuff into our bodies day after day and folks think our water will just fix itself? anyway it takes time and in time the body water will get better and when the body uses it so will she. We love you all of you. God Bless you and we will win this in the end. O Oracle |
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davidportia
Member since Jul-23-08
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Aug-23-08, 10:08 PM (PST) |
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7. "RE: squamous lung cancer"
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Just an update on my dad current status. He has been on DCA for 11 days. No bad feelings or side effects of any kind, except complaining the bad taste. He had a very brief numb feeling on the tongue two days ago. He just dissolved the DCA in water and drank it. Plan to use capsule to avoid the bad taste, but worried about the DCA not being diluted and may upset the stomach. Any comment on this?He has been coughed blood which is either trace or dot like. For the past 3 days, he coughed less often, but when he did, the blood now is black instead of fresh blood-like. The size is much larger, which is about the size of a pea. Is this a good sign or bad? Wish you all the best with DCA usage. David |
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parachute
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Aug-24-08, 01:31 AM (PST) |
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8. "RE: squamous lung cancer — DCA in capsules?"
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Hi David, I take DCA in capsules when I'm traveling. I just wash the capsule down with about six ounces of water and have not noticed any effect on the stomach. Best, Randy |
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davidportia
Member since Jul-23-08
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Sep-20-08, 11:14 PM (PST) |
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19. "RE: squamous lung cancer"
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>Hi, Dear All, >I have been in the forum for some day already seeking info >about lung cancer. The final word has come yesterday that my >dad has squamous lung cancer, which based on my knowledge is >a kind of NSCLC (non small cell lung cancer). He was sent to >hospital when he coughed up traces of blood about a month >ago. He has a very long smoking history (more than 50 >years). >The previous CT scan about 3 weeks ago reported that "...the >left lung door enlarged, soft tissue lump, size about 5.4 >X7.0 cm. The lump edge is leaf like". >The doctors decided to perform chemo on him for 5 >consecutive days and then release him from the hospital. >Thought the chemo will be too much for him as he is pretty >weak right now. >Just got DCA for him and today he is starting to take it >with a dosage 12mg/kg/day. we will increase the dosage by >2mg after each 3 days until 20mg. Of course vit B1, B12, >Coffee & Tea, fish oil, Mature Multi Vitmins and minerals >(by Kirkland from Costco, which contains Vitamin C 60mg, is >this ok?) will be used. >We will schedule a scan after 3 weeks to see the result. Is >it too short? I do not expect big good news that the tumor's >size is decreased but it is under check. >Any comment and suggestions on how best to proceed from >here? >I wish all good luck with the magic DCA. Dear All, Finally I have an update for my dad as the latest CT Scan came yesterday. My dad was not able to do the scan earlier. After careful comparison of the wording between the two reports, one great positive result is the size of the tumor on the left lung now has been reduced to 4.5*5.8cm, while the previous scan showed 5.4cm*7.0cm. This report did not mention anything about the right lung, while the previous scan said that left lung's upper leaf, right lung's middle leaf have rope/bar shape high density shades. I will update on this point once I get clarification on this. The two scans are done in two different hospitals, so there may be accuracy/tolerant differences. But taken all these into consideration, I am very relieved about the progress we had so far, which well exceeded my expectations, because he stared with a very low doze of DCA and gradually increased it to around 25mg/day/kg. He still coughs several times early in the morning, accompanied with dark blood in one or two pea size. His voice are coarse. I must say that DCA did work for my dad because my dad has been mainly on DCA + Coffee + Tea + supplements. He used very low doze D-Penicillamine, but less than 10 days. I always remembered and feel amused about somehope has said: that "We all walk on eggshells with Cancer. We don't want to jinx it or make the Cancer gods mad at us. I actually am afraid to say, 'he's doing good'- that's usually when Cancer kicks you in the butt and laughs at you for being so cocky." I am cautious and still worried about what next... But most of all, I want to express my thanks to Jim and Jackie(she is my Angel of Hope) for the DCA; Sandra, Annabelle and Oracle for all your great advices. Wish you all the best, David |
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Elizabeth1
Member since Oct-2-08
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Nov-21-08, 00:11 AM (PST) |
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30. "RE: Any advice and suggestion"
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OMG David, Sorry Man...WHAT is he on right now>> Had chemo/radiation n DCA ya?? What now though? WHat dose DCA ect?? I'll try to help if I can. ELizabeth I have read that in the lungs when cancer is there that these lil dodas called Macrophages do their natural job in go in their in droves. THis can be a problem if LOADS of cancer in their.. Get back to me ASAP ok CHIN up head to the NET Elizabeth Lets fight together, help each other. I truely believe that we have to be our own health advocat. |
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oracle
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Sep-28-08, 04:19 AM (PST) |
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22. "RE: squamous lung cancer U can beat this - He will win!"
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Hi - I will post this after this response to let folks know my wife Lien who had the cancer from hell all of the place is in a remission state at this time, the first of her form to do so. This is miraculous and this is a time of grace so be strong and empower your loved one to understand this is beatable but he must not waiver and he must not ever stop believing in his own power to defeat whatever is before him. See the Oracle protocols and Jims posts on Fish Oil. The fish oil can be derived from soups and make sure to alkaline the soup water to a ph over 9.0. Halibut is the best and read the work om Sandra she is for real - the real deal girl - trust her and the others here and you cannot fail - we are not doctors but we sure as hell have been our own guinea piggies and we are winning. Think Water - Think Body Water - How is his Body water not so much his saliva but his internal body water - hard to know but just make every effort to make sure all the Liquids going in are alkaline. Some folks get by without using DCA but if you want to stop spread you must create an anit cancer - anti acidic environment. God Bless us all! Oracle Oracle |
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Elizabeth1
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Nov-17-08, 11:56 AM (PST) |
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24. "RE: squamous lung cancer"
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David, THIS IS WONDERFUL news@@!!!!!! Good for you for keeping up and ON it. I have cervical cancer, and am seeimg results too. Er well maybe more like imagining them LOL Hey, you know something, I have noticed a pattern with the DCA n tumor shrinkage. It seems that the DCA does work but it works fast. So with your Dad having tumors in lungs they shrunk fast on the DCA, leaving the blood vessels OPEN and bleeding. THe body goes in there to clot them and his LUNGS would note the irritation and start to coff. Makes sense?? Well whatever had clotted previously, would BE BLACK or dark, followed by bright new blood YA>>?? Just my opionion. Makes sense though, I have the bleeding too after using the DCA, so same thing different area and same things with the blood too!! ALSO, I have noted this with several brain cancer patients who contacted me, In our thoughts right on Elizabeth
Lets fight together, help each other. I truely believe that we have to be our own health advocat.
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Elizabeth1
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Nov-17-08, 11:40 PM (PST) |
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27. "RE: squamous lung cancer"
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Hoya, Don't know bout that>> OR this: "fatiguability" is that a werd? I kow from askin round that FLATULANCE is a problem with the DCA>>> The WIDE KNOWN side effects are listed in the DCA site front webpages. I suppose anything is possible if a series of other factors are encountered..... Eliza Lets fight together, help each other. I truely believe that we have to be our own health advocat.
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davidportia
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Feb-03-09, 07:27 AM (PST) |
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31. "RE: update on my dad's squamous lung cancer"
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My dad just had another CT scan on 02-02-09, the result is alarmingly not good. The size of the tumor has increased again, from 5.4cm x 6cm to 6.5cm x 7.6cm. He has lost more than 11 pounds within just last month, and his body weight is 109 pounds only. During the past two months, the amount of DCA used was 25mg/kg/day initially for about 2 weeks, then my dad has pretty bad P/N. The amount has been always 20mg, but the numbness in his feet never got better. His hands is a little bit better than the feet. I just obtained naltrexone and start using it together with DCA 15mg, with the hope to ease the P/N. I hope these two meds can enhance each other efficacy. I would like also to add Iressa once I obtain it. my feeling is that DCA does work, but it can not keep the cancer under control. Right now, I am pretty panic about the development and welcome any suggestions. |
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oracle
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Feb-03-09, 12:18 PM (PST) |
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34. "RE: squamous lung cancer"
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Hi and hang tough! he will live a long life. I wanted to make sure you check the multivitmains - they usually have copper and big doses of Vitamin C. Copper is a favorite of cancer cells and the are copper heavy and C might interfere with DCA being an anti-oxydent. I think you should get heavy duty vitamin liquid D and order up what the asians use for energy in Japan - Wisconsen ginseng! thats right - the say studies show its providing the most energy to chemo patients. It works great for my wife a 2 and a half year stage 4 lung cancer lymphoma survivor. God bless us all o Oracle |
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Mack
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May-20-09, 06:12 AM (PST) |
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39. "RE: We lost our battle"
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David, so sorry to hear this. I know it is no consolation at this time but you went above and beyond the call to look after your Dad and he is now at peace, untroubled by pain or worry. I hope you will stay around and contribute your insights to the forum in the hope we can work out why dca cannot finish the job in all cases and perhaps work out a way of making it more effective for all so others don't have to endure a loss like yours. Although I will understand completely if you don't wish to do so. With very best wishes Mack |
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