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tmccasland
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Aug-29-07, 03:56 AM (PST)
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"Didn't work for me"
 
   Took 1/4 tsp DCA for 6 weeks along with the usual q-10, vits, grape extract, etc. According to the PET scans the tumors (colon cancer spread to the lungs)grew about 50% in that time. Guess it is back to the chemo which had reduced them by 75% earlier. However, just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean that it won't work for others. Keep the faith!

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billn
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2. "RE: Didn't work for me"
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Sorry to here this didn't work for you,but...

What Vitamins were you taking? There seems to be indications that taking Vitamin C is counterproductive to allowing DCA to work.

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oracle
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3. "RE: Didn't work for me-"
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I am sorry about your bad experience but dont give up - MY wife and I its about protocols from experience for us so on chemo there seems to be a synergistic effect between chemo and DCA. Except where DCA can be totally applied physically to a site where I myself have seen how a growth my friend had on his skin was gone over night. he applied it directly to the cancer or the skin growth.

I drank dca for three weeks and I do not have cancer but had no side effects except a soreness in the throat so this weekend just for you I promise I will do this:

I am going to give my self an enima of one 8 ounce container of DCA. I will post to you by saturday or Sunday what happened to me. If it hurts I will let you know - no Im not crazy I just beleive in DCA and after seeing what it does when directly applied to growths - one posted on this site and one with my friend.

I have three good reasons to beleive it works and another to try it - YOU. But what is your PH you must have an idea on what it is?

My wife was given pallative treatments and told they would not work for long and had never worked past 4 - 6 months due to her lymphatic cancer from her stage IV Lung cancer but they did not have to work for long. So far as of yesterdays old PET verses new compares our Dr stated that she has only been getting treatment combinations for three months and we also found out by getting a copy of the original PET from our hated cancer care alliance that she not only had both lungs with masses (we knew one had a big mass but her left lung also had a 1.7 centmeter mass and she had a mass we were "not" told about from UW cancer care alliance in her liver! plus her lymphatic system was riddeled.

With DCA we decided to continue chemo treatments and to use DCA in order to help the cells be more responsive to treatments and by the grace fo god go us - it worked and she is as of yesterday - they are thinking very close (2.3 centimeters) from remission.

I do not think we are in an all of nothing scenario and we never will stop DCA - no way - but I would not stop abraxane, avastin and our budwig diet either because she dropped all that cancer in 3 months and my friend on a clinical study using the budwig ptotocols - chemo -Lemon water keepng a high 8+ ph and dca had a 69% tumor reduction in 7 weeks! with pancreatic cancer that was in his liver and stomach.

If you were sent home to die or you are tired of chemo or it stopped working dont give up - what is you ph ? how lactic is your diet etc.
I think its impossible for these to not work in the correct method after seeing this huge change not just in one person stage IV in my life but two at the same time.

This is terrible for all of us so please do not give up - please look at the protocol my wife has been on and its the same one I passed on to my friend who also went off pain killers within 3 weeks.

Please see Dr. Chen at CTC and wellness Center and let him help you with the chemo treatments - TRUST ME THERE IS A DIFFERENCE - I had my friend with pancreatic cancer discuss my wifes weekly treatments with his Dr. and he told him he would not do the chemo bombs and would only accept treatment from him if he could get treated weekly like my wife was getting from our brilliant Dr. Chen.

I had some fairly big debates on our protocols with the mighty alliance oncologist and their so called nutritionalist(SAD) of UW for my wife but stuck to my guns. My wife was to be a doctor so it was tough to alter her path but she beleived after seeing some amazing responses. We all have to beleive we will make it and its a matter of doing everything PH, good standard treatments, vegan diets etc when DCA does not work alone for you.

I beleive it would if you have time to experiment but you do not.

If you had a swimming pool and it was getting spots in it what would you do? would you go into the pool and kill everything in sight every time you saw a spot? no you would call a pool doctor who would deliver a combination of things and also get the PH right so it was alkaline and pristine glistening with sunshine! - that will be you my brother.

Remember my wife as many of us have had drawbacks that looked bad but you have to persevere you will make it - you will make it YOU WILL MAKE IT! your a warrior and in every fight there is always a punch in the nose (even if your bruce lee)

Dont Give In - go over the checklist this sight admins have helped us with - PH Balance - dosage - diet, standard treatment options using the newer nano delivery system(less drug - bigger hit rate like day and night) and your spritual well being they are synergistic - Please forgive me but I think this is a sign of bad PH and an out of control acidic condition that we all struggle with to get under control. The only thing that excels in nasty acidic conditions in anu for of water is decease - even if your on chemo your acidic condition will a critical factor as it is in all ill patients.

We stopped our spread dead in its tracks with the budwig diet and alkaline but we did not cure her with it - once started other things like DCA she put on weight her lymphatic system started to clear and then we hit it with abraxane (nano particle) and bam bye bye cancer.

You sir will make it - you cannot give up but use everything at your disposal on this site and with your oncologist and naturopath.

DO NOT QUIT OR BE DISHEARTENED YOUR GOING TO BE OK - go over the checklist and make your adjustments.

We are all in this together and we will be successful.

My wife was dying so we said the hell with this and threw all but the the kitchen sink at her cancer and its simply impossible for it not to die.

Even if DCA did not remove the cancer from your body there must be a reason for the spread and how is it possible for cancer to live in oxygen or spread in lemon juice or a purley ketosis state of alkaline? unless its in the blood and then how does it land with no landing strip - sounds stupid but isnt it oxygen thats used to control cancer cells in the lab? anyway if the FDA is watching us and they have seen cancer grow in lemon juice alkaline - step up and say so.

I will let you know what happens to my back end when I give it the ole DCA dosage if it does not hurt - yippee but if it does you owe me a pizza - vegan of course

God Bless You Friend and as wierd as I sound - I like you - I am human first so lets not call ourselves strangers but brothers and win this fight.

O

Oracle


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tmccasland
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Aug-30-07, 05:09 PM (PST)
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5. "RE: Didn't work for me-"
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   Thanks Oracle! It was not a bad experience, it just didn't seem to work. I did talk to my onc about ph ballance, but he had no idea about how to measure it and had no interest in it.

If the DCA had done better I would have gone to Mexico or wherever to get more. I will, however, study your info and do a more research before I give up on it.

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tmccasland
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Aug-30-07, 05:00 PM (PST)
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4. "RE: Didn't work for me"
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   Hi, I took 4 gms vit d, milk thistle, b1,b6,and reservatol (grape extract) Only took minimal vit c. Also did hot dry saunas. Looks like my doc is going to put me on oral fu5 to see what that will do. I'm way to active to want to go on the full chemo again.


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oracle
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6. "RE: Didn't work for me -"
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We are not doctors and cannot give medical advicebut dont forget to ask him about Abraxane - or just ask him about nano particle delivery - google it - see for yourself so you have some facts. If your doctor has no clue on the things you just talked about then I would run the hell out of there. Go get on a nanoparticle treatment (less drug) better delivery.

We are not doctors and cannot give medical advice but My wife and friend are on different forms of chemo but they are both weekly and they are both on DCA with the vities and diet. When DCA does not work definately go for standard treatments but our only difference is that we continue DCA and we are the only ones with this kind of response and it is as far as we are concerned the diet, PH, nano treatments and DCA.

Example: my wife is completely clear and I called yesterday becuase over the past few weeks her ph has fallen to 6+ below 7 - YIKES man serious and here is what has happened.

She is still clear of cancer all is well there but after months of high ph nad not even a headache she has a chemo cough or some kind of cold due to infenction. I freaked adn they said its ok and its just a cold or minor infection.

I called them and said lets cut the dame 2.3 centimeter spot out if she is clear why screw around with it and they said she is doing to well the treatments and remisssion state is so close why risk any operation? I said ok but still it makes me mad that we are near the end and she gets a dam infection. I swear to you if a doctor does not know about PH or care or acts indifferent - I would run like the dickens - get out of there man - where are you are you in a big city or little po dunk? can you get to a cancer treatment center and wellness center?

We have a big home with 5 bedrooms and liens treatment only took 3 months to get her where she is so if you cannot find a place like we have here in Seattle we want you to come here and see Dr, Chen and Dr. Geniac - my bother inlaw even has an airline ticketing business Called Big Ben Travel. Also cancer treatments centers have volunteer pilots who will bring you for free - late flights etc but still free.

You need to get with people who can help you save your own life and get away from those who simply pile up bodies in the name of the FDA.

Email me if you want to come here please - we are just three people im an 5 bedroom house. joseph@oraclemasters.com

Keep in mind Dr Chen is not a DCA advocate but its your choice to have potato salad if you want to while taking chemo not anyone elses Let a naturopathic help you deal with lactic acid and deal with things that Dr. Chen or Chue have not been trained or licensed to talk about.

You can do this man and you are not alone in your struggle obviously so go for it! Lets all get rid of this dam thing and move on with our lives.

Other things that seem stupid but might or might not means something.

We do not understand Karma and its not in our upbringing and sounds like stupidity but why take any chances - if there is a greater power out there and its all about love for all creatures - well lets just say I beleive it is not a good time to test wrong or right so keep your world kind and good - if you were da love boss and had someone showing no mercy to any of your creature and then one day that person got sick and went to the da love boss for cure what do you think the Da love boss would say anyway sorry about the dumb example -

Here is some info:

Dr. Chen and Dr. Gegnac at CTC and wellness Center - 206-367-4673

Make an appointment - Drink that dam lemon water and come on down man -

God Bless

Oracle


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truthofcancer
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Sep-06-07, 03:20 AM (PST)
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7. "RE: Didn't work for me -"
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   Hi, I posted this on another topic but thought I would add it here too. It is an all natural protocal and can be used with chemo.

1. Start and alkalizing diet. you can google search cancer alkalizing diet and find the basic foods. Only get a mastication juicer and juice the fruits/veggies.

2. Eat alot of fruit salad made of blueberries, cranberries, strawberries, pomegranite, tomato, apple (all of these are heavy in cancer killing compounds) topped off with olive oil and loads of broccoli sprouts. The cancer killer in broccoli is SGS. One ounce of broccoli sprouts has more sgs than one and a half pounds of broccoli.

3. Drink as much tea as possible (green or black) and put all the lemon and honey in it you can.

4. Eat all the celery you can, raw or cooked.

5. spice anything you can with curry, cayenne pepper, or garlic that you can. Eat all you can of these, ever odorless garlic if you must but fresh is better.

6. I'm a big fan of vitamin B-17, in its natural form not laetrile. Most potent in ground apple or apricot seeds. I like to eat at least one apple a day then pull out the seeds, wash them, and let them air dry. Then put the seeds in a standard pepper grinder and grind them on almost anything I eat. (especially the above mentioned salads)

7. Take fish oil at least 3 times a day, the higher they are in EPA and DHA the better.

This is a very potent cancer killing procedure and I wish you and your friend the best of luck. Take care.


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