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Sandra
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May-08-08, 04:03 AM (PST) |
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"Bill C51 Removes Freedom of Choice in Healthcare"
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On April 8th, 2008, the Canadian Minister of Health introduced Bill C-51 into the House of Commons. This Bill proposes significant changes to the current Food and Drugs Act that will have wide-ranging negative implications for Canadians. Please sign this petition and write your member of parliament! http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/StopC51 http://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/ When C-51 becomes law government agents will be able to: • Enter private property without a warrant • Take your property at their discretion • Dispose of your property at will • Not reimburse you for your losses • Seize your bank accounts without a warrant • charge owners shipping and storage charges for seized property • store your property indefinitely • levy fines of up to $5,000,000.00 and/or seek 2 years in jail per charge Bill C-51 will: • Remove democratic oversight, bypassing elected officials to vote in laws and allow bureaucrats to adopt laws from other countries without our consent. • Remove more than 70% of Natural Health Products from Canadians and many others will be available by prescription only. • Restrict research and development of safe natural alternatives in favor of high risk drugs. • Punish Canadians with little or no opportunity for protection or recourse for simply speaking about or giving a natural product without the approval of government. More than 70% of people in Canada use a Natural Health Product. The new law goes so far as to warrant action against a person who would give another person an unapproved amount of garlic on the recommendation that it would improve that persons health. With your assets and money under their control will you be able to defend yourself in Court? Would our government really ever turn this law against us? Read the following account. In 2003 Health Canada launched an attack on a group of mentally ill patients and the company who supported them naturally. They seized shipments of a safe natural therapy required by the patients and stormed the support center with 17 armed officers and agents. The company (Truehope) reported that they lost contact with more than 300 of their Canadian participants. The Canadian Mental Health Association told of suicides as a result of government action. Health Canada then charged the not for profit company, burdening them with heavy legal costs. Health Canada lost this case. Although the agents admitted knowing they were injuring people through their actions, they continued to enforce policy at the cost of life. And what happened to the more than 300 mentally ill Canadians that became unreachable? In the months and years following, reports of hospitalizations and suicides during the seizures have surfaced. No Health Canada agent has ever been charged.
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- RE: Bill C51 Removes Freedom of Choice in Healthcare,
Sandra, May-08-08, 04:35 AM, (1)
- RE: Bill C51 Removes Freedom of Choice in Healthcare,
Sandra, May-09-08, 08:03 PM, (4)
- RE: Bill C51 Update,
Sandra, Jun-16-08, 09:36 PM, (8)
- RE: Bill C51 Update,
Dave, Jun-18-08, 03:32 AM, (9)
- RE: Bill C51 Update,
barb1, Jun-18-08, 04:53 PM, (10)
- RE: Bill C51 Update,
Sandra, Jul-08-08, 09:02 PM, (11)
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Sandra
Member since Feb-27-07
637 posts |
May-08-08, 04:35 AM (PST) |
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1. "RE: Bill C51 Removes Freedom of Choice in Healthcare"
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More on this story from Natural News: http://www.naturalnews.com/023121.html 'Join the rally to protest C-51 On May 9th, 2008, Canadian citizens will be gathering at the Calgary Federal Court to protest C-51 and help protect their access to natural health products. Call 1-888-878-3467 to learn more, or visit the action page of Health Canada Exposed at: http://www.stopc51.com/c51/what_you_can_do.asp NaturalNews is looking to hire someone with a good video camera to film the event. We'll gladly pay you to video tape this and send us the resulting file, which we will edit and then post for NaturalNews readers. If you have a video camera (with good audio, hopefully) and can attend the May 9th rally, please contact us at (U.S.) 520-232-9300 for details. If you do film there, be sure to use the camera buddy system, where you have somebody in the distance filming YOU with the camera, so that if Canadian law enforcement thugs decide to assault you and steal your video camera in order to censor the event, then somebody else in the distance has THAT on video! You got that? So there are two cameras working, camera A is filming the rally, and it's very close to the action. Camera B is set back farther from the scene, and it's filming the person holding camera A. This is standard operating practice for filming such events, and it makes it very difficult for government thugs to shut down the video. Often, the person filming with camera B is in a car somewhere, or filming covertly so that they don't attract attention. Zoom lenses help a lot. In any case, if you manage to get some video of this event, then we'd be thrilled to share it with NaturalNews readers. And like I said, we'll pay for footage, so call us for details. Together, we can help spread the word about this important rally for health freedom in Canada. Learn more: http://www.stopC51.com' |
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Sandra
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May-09-08, 00:13 AM (PST) |
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2. "RE: Bill C51 Removes Freedom of Choice in Healthcare"
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The Edmonton Journal - Protest planned over herbal medicine amendment http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=2fd07b85-dc68-4f4e-ba26-6378efe3989d'... Federal Health Minister Tony Clement said today it is simply long-overdue consumer protection legislation meant to deal primarily with the $20-billion-a-year drug industry. The new legislation is will focus the attention of Health Canada on the safety of drugs throughout their cycle, from initial clinical trials through to the risks and benefits that result from their wide usage, Clement said in a telephone interview.... ... Products that may potentially produce liver damage or strokes or cause heart attacks - whether they come from classic pharmaceutical companies or from natural health producers - will have to overcome more rigorous testing before they are approved for use, said Clement. "If the product is a vitamin, the negative impact of taking a vitamin is low, so it will be fast-tracked and won't have to go through the rigamarole other products would encounter. "If the risk it low, it will be fast-tracked. If high, for example the product claims to cure cancer, it will take more time." John Biggs, owner of three Optimum Health stores, doesn't believe Clement or trust Health Canada, a ministry he says has always been biased against the natural health industry. Many years ago, the natural health products industry asked Health Canada to create a separate category for its products to distinguish them from pharmaceuticals and food. Instead, the ministry created a Natural Products Directorate that would give each natural health product a number that would make it legal for sale. In effect, natural health products were being treated the same as the pharmaceuticals produced by huge multinationals, only by a different directorate. For more than a decade, that directorate has found itself overwhelmed with applications for approval, Biggs said. Approximately 45,000 natural health products applied for numbers. "In four years, the Natural Products Directorate has only processed 6,000 of them. "The ones that remain unapproved are in technical violation and C-51 makes unapproved therapeutic products illegal," Biggs said...'
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Sandra
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May-09-08, 00:25 AM (PST) |
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3. "RE: Bill C51 Removes Freedom of Choice in Healthcare"
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Health Minister Tony Clement owns 1/4 of a PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY!!! http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=26c86ac7-da26-4537-9a67-bc1d151f9ee7 Clement should know better The Gazette Monday, June 12, 2006 Imagine yourself, newly arrived in Ottawa, as the freshman Minister of Cheeseburgers. Before moving into your office, might you be inclined first to divest yourself of your personal interest in Harvey's? Particularly if your interest amounted to a whopping one-quarter ownership of the company? It seems to us that any politician thinking clearly on the subject would answer yes, sell the stock immediately and re-route the money into a more neutral investment. Yet federal Health Minister Tony Clement, who holds a one-quarter equity position in Prudential Chem Inc., a Toronto manufacturer of pharmaceutical chemicals, has merely disclosed the information to ethics commissioner Bernard Shapiro and left it at that. Shapiro, not noted for the clarity or consistency of his rulings, has neither asked Clement to sell the shares nor even required him to put them in a blind trust. It is hard to think of a more flagrant conflict. Even Paul Martin's much-discussed ownership of Canada Steamships Lines was removed by several bureaucratic steps from the influence of the Prime Minister's Office. A large part of Health Canada's business is the regulation of drugs. Hardly a week goes by during which Clement does not deliberate over an issue affecting the pharmaceutical industry and, necessarily, Prudential Chem Inc. That all this comes from a clean-cut rookie minister from the cabinet of Stephen Harper makes it doubly puzzling. It sounds like the sort of monkey business the famous Federal Accountability Act - not yet enacted by Parliament - was drawn up to prevent. Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor is a former brigadier-general and was a lobbyist for the defence industry. Some squirm at the thought he would decide whether a company for which he worked should win a lucrative contract. But at least his past is past. David Emerson, Minister of International Trade, has been an object of controversy mostly because he crossed the floor after being elected as a Liberal. Less often noted is his former post as chief executive officer of Canfor Corporation, Canada's largest producer of softwood lumber. A potential conflict? Perhaps. But Harper correctly reasoned that Emerson's obvious expertise in forestry would lead to a successful resolution of the softwood lumber dispute. The health minister had 60 days to disclose his investments, which is to say he had 60 days to rid himself of this potential conflict and the embarrassment it would cause the government. It is a little odd to see a successful veteran of Ontario politics and a stalwart of the famous Common Sense Revolution lack just that quality - common sense.
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Sandra
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Jun-16-08, 09:36 PM (PST) |
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8. "RE: Bill C51 Update"
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Seems demonstating in the streets paid off! http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=60766081-1857-4baa-bc88-bcab87be299b
Health minister goes natural Clement reverses stand on herbal remedies bill Sarah Schmidt Canwest News Service Saturday, June 14, 2008 OTTAWA - In a surprising about-face, Health Minister Tony Clement has agreed to key demands of the natural health products industry after the sector launched a grassroots campaign against restrictions on homeopathic medicines and herbal remedies in new legislation. When Clement proposed amendments to the Food and Drugs Act in April, natural medicines were lumped in with pharmaceutical drugs, raising concerns they would be subject to the same type of oversight. He now admits it was a mistake not to create a separate category under the law. "My attitude is a bill is a work in progress. Let's see whether we are clearly getting out the things that we want to do in a particular bill. In this case, obviously protecting the health and safety of Canadians was and remains the motive for the bill," Clement said in an interview Friday. But he added it "became clear that some things that we thought were implicit in the bill" needed to be spelled out. "So, I listened to that, I listened to my own caucus who were getting the feedback from people as well, and to me it was a no-brainer. We can make the bill a better bill. We can make it explicitly, as well as implicitly, more balanced, and we still achieve our goals, which is protecting the health and safety of Canadians," said Clement. The government is now proposing to insert a definition of natural health products into the Food and Drugs Act to "clearly recognize" that they're distinct from foods and drugs under the law. "Canadians have clearly expressed the desire to recognize natural health products as a unique category of products," a ministry backgrounder states about changes tabled in the House of Commons. And as a lower-risk product than prescription drugs, the government is proposing other changes to make it clear natural medicines will follow a different process to get to market. The new amendments make explicit mention that traditional knowledge and history of use can be considered for obtaining authorization to sell a natural health product. These key changes come after the Canadian Health Food Association, which represents manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers in the natural products industry, organized rallies across the country calling for natural health products to be recognized as a consumer product distinct from food and drugs. Clement also met last week with association representatives, where they pressed their case. "We really felt he was listening," president Penelope Marrett said. Clement acknowledges the legislation tabled in April needed to be further clarified to assuage concerns about the powers of inspectors. The new amendments clarify that inspectors can only detain a product to identify or prevent a health risk.
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barb1
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Jun-18-08, 04:53 PM (PST) |
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10. "RE: Bill C51 Update"
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I wrote letters too, and I'm glad to see they may have had some effect. But we're not out of the woods on this yet. "Natural medicines will follow a different process to get to market" and "traditional knowledge and history of use can be considered for obtaining authorization to sell a natural health product" are good changes, but they still leave plenty of room for our favourite curatives to become illegal. DCA, for example, is not particularly natural, nor does it have a long history of use. MMS is my particular favourite, but once again does not carry the protection of a long tradition of use. Our system for identifying new cures and bringing them to the public is fundamentally broken and I hate to see laws that make this even harder. |
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