DCA is also a chemotherapy, very effective, very cheap and with no side effects compared to regular chemotherapies.

In some cases this is true. In other cases chemo might help. My impression is that oncologists prescribe chemotherapies like aspirines, and this is really scary.

>Regarding DCA: Trials have been done in vitro and with rats.
>These trials show that DCA might have a certain anti-cancer
>effect. However, trials with humans did not show this
>effect.

Where did you get this information from? Please, read the results from Medicor Clinic, the testimonials in this forum, or the DCA-caffeine sarvey. Can't all these people lie.

>DCA is not without risk or side effects, it can cause liver
>damage and nerve damage, which can be very painful as well.

Yes, it can cause liver damage if someone takes 100 times the dose used in DCA protocols here and at long periods of time. At doses of 10-15mg/Kg it is proven to be safe. The same is true about Peripheral Neurosis (PN).
DCA has been used to treat kids for 35 years at much higher doses.

>Your claims about DCA being the perfect cure for cancer have
>no basis. Further research is needed.

But nobody cares for doing this research. If DCA was patented, things would be completely different.

And I've never said it is the perfect cure. I said it is much better and safer than many FDA approved chemos.

Read Ralph Moss' book 'Questioning Chemotherapy'. He's been researching all cancer treatements (conventional and alternative) for over 30 years now. He documents the statistics of which cancers chemotherapy is actually effective for. Unfortunately, for many it is only palliative... I was one day from my first chemo session, when I decided to pursue alternative treatment instead, after hundreds of hours of research. But this is a very individual decision - a personal choice. I don't judge anyone for taking chemo, or not taking chemo. This is a life and death decision after all. But I personally think it make a lot of sense to treat cancer as a metabolic disorder, targeting it the way DCA and supplements do.

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/books.html

I never said chemo was a fraud - the study above suggests it's only marginally effective for many cancers. Supplements are also not a fraud - there is valid science behind many of them. Some are proven to increase efficacy of specific chemo drugs. When I refused chemo and surgery I was given 2 years to live. I'm 5 months past that without being sick, still have my hair, I have no mets and my tumor is shrinking. I'm for people doing their own research and making their own decisions regarding treatment. My oncologist failed to inform me of survival stats and serious side effects like 'chemo brain' and the risk of heart damage/failure. He also wouldn't provide any care outside of 'standard protocol' which we both agree is only palliative for the stage III cancer I have. I had to have a GP prescribe DCA for me. I'm just saying that people - especially those with conventionally 'incurable' cancers - should have freedom of choice to pursue any treatment with scientific merit. DCA targets damaged mitochondria and is proving to be an effective treatment for many - in the very least making cancer a chronic disease and for some people it has provided complete remission.

Hey folks, remember that we're all after the same thing, I hope.
Let's try not to get too religious about our own point of view. When you become a 'true believer' in something , you stop looking because you think you've found the truth. That's when you shut yourself out to the possibility of a better way, and stop learning.

This is not true. There are stage IV people that overlived many stage I. Statistically early stages have better prognosis, but nothing is certain.

I have close friends that went through surgery-radiation-chemotherapy treatment and some of them are doing pretty good so far. It is interesting though that their oncologists have not suggested any adjuvant treatment like diet or supplementation. They live like nothing happened, and the only they do is getting cut scans and mri's twice per year. I beleive that all these people are at risk and could have better lack if at this point of time could follow some sort of prevention.

Chemo is extremely controversial among oncologists and other professionals.

If those insiders are fighting over treatments, how are us patients supposed to know or decide anything? The feeling of powerlessness, of helplessness can be overwhelming, at very best stressful.

eg, a recent example of the controversial approval of Genentech's Avastin for breast cancer:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/571079

Anecdotes of "I know somebody(s) doing OK on chemo" are worthless. The cancer stats of treatments, survival time, deaths, are very well known for each type of cancer. Nobody can predict how any one person's cancer will respond. Total guessing. Throw it against the wall and see if it sticks.

I admire your decision and your courage to go your own way to find treatment.

Chemotherapy is not the answer to cancer in my point of view. There is lots more one can do.

Ever heard of Dr. Simoncini? Read this on his site.
http://www.curenaturalicancro.org/english/index.htm

Seeking the truth is an interesting thing. To me, it means honoring other's opinions, beliefs, experiences, and choices. Asking questions respectfully is the quickest path to any truth, in my opinion.

A question I always ask myself, when trying to figure out the truth, is why do I believe something simply because someone told me it is so? Why would I believe the "facts" that authority tells us? Why should anyone believe that the medical industry has any "truth", or that thedcasite has any "truth"? I'm trying to point out that more than believing “facts” simply because any authority says them is dangerous; we MUST use own common sense and judgment. Unfortunately we can't simply listen to others without our own discernment in this day and age; we must search for our own truths and arrive at conclusions because it has been proven to us, personally, to be true. Many individuals, groups and nations have been led tragically astray from reality because they simply listened and did not THINK.

Chemo has probably saved people’s lives. We believe that DCA has saved people’s lives. But it’s not that simple. Knowing WHY is key; knowing how each method works for each individual is important because we are physiologically different as far as immune system strength, personal beliefs and other factors that determine a lot about the outcome.
And there are probably many ways to heal illness, not just one simple silver bullet. I often ask, WHY are we sick? That question in itself may create more answers and possibilities and truth than any other. Taking the time to learn how to CREATE GOOD HEALTH is the single most important thing we can do.

These are my personal opinions only; none of this is medical advice.

Heather
TheDCAsite Forum Moderator

Please let me propose that we close this thread and everyone refrain from further discussion. The very first post carried an inflammatory subject line:

Chemo A FRAUD -
More Evidence
It's WORTHLESS

Though not for everyone, chemo has its place. If 'buteyko centre' had accurately summarized the abstracts in emotionally neutral language the thread might have remained at a single post.

We have now reached a situation where individuals appear to be reaching for arguments simply to reinforce their position, to the detriment of list harmony. That's not what we're here for :-)

Please, everyone just let go; let's all focus on being helpful to one another. That's where this list truly shines.

Keep the faith,

Parachute

Standard chemotherapy shows no benefit for certain types of colon cancer
Jessica Wapner. Standard chemotherapy shows no benefit for certain types of colon cancer. BMJ 2008;336:1211; 31 May
" could save patients the toxicity, inconvenience, and expense of treatment from which they will receive no benefit," said Daniel Sargent, of the Mayo Clinic and lead author of the new study.
.(New England Journal of Medicine 2003;349:247-257)
http://www.iocob.nl/kanker/chemotherapie-dmmr-darmkanker-niet-werkzaam-en-verhoogt-sterfte.html

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The overall contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to be 2.3% in Australia and 2.1% in the USA. CONCLUSION: As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required." Read More....